Has any Retrovirus been Proven to be a Pathogen?

We have to look back to the late 1800s to pick up the virus-related skullduggery that has been foisted against the world’s human population for the purpose of control through the fear mechanism.  In this early era, the ability to even detect the existence of viruses was just emerging.

But the ‘skullduggers’, who have been controlling humans for millennia, saw something with potential that could really spike up the confusion and resulting fear, based on something enormously plentiful but also enormously difficult to detect, let alone analyze or prove anything about the nature of the submicroscopic entity.

I mean, what is a virus anyway?.  Nobody seems to really know the answer to the question.  Well, very good.  We know the answer but let’s not let that stop us from revealing the creation of a whole new spectrum of medical fear that goes hand in hand with the emerging Rockefeller theory of disease based on Louis Pasteur’s fake germ theory, bought and paid for by the Rothschilds. 

The new Rockefeller Allopathic system of medical treatments, based on pharmaceutical drugs and needless surgeries, could use a lot more pathogens.  Allopathy, from Pasteur’s fake germ theory, needs thousands of new diseases, each stemming from a different ‘germ’.  What is a ‘germ’, anyway?

Never mind.  Leave this in the hands of our highly trained doctors who will know all about this when they complete our new college allopathic medical training curriculum.  They will be able to determine which ‘germ’ you’ve caught from some sneeze, toilet seat, or doorknob.  They will prescribe the appropriate pills and other treatments to alleviate your symptoms while leaving the root cause untreated and undiagnosed.

By deciding to make the viruses into the culprits for a lot of diseases, they created all the needed thousands of pathogens to categorize as ‘germs’ and blame any number of illnesses on.  This led to the idea of vaccination.  If we shoot some germs into the flesh of humans, we can say that they will become immune.  They will no longer be able to catch a certain illness from that specific germ.  They carefully tracked the trajectories of certain illnesses.  When they saw that improved sanitary and environmental conditions were slowly reducing the susceptibility to certain pathogens, they introduced vaccines to take the credit for the already falling incidence of these specific illnesses.  People fell for this charade and accepted vaccines as the story line was told.

Soon the idea of viruses as pathogens, having never been even questioned, was just accepted into the medical vernacular.  Viruses are just waste material from cellular reproduction.  All of the trillions of cells comprising a human body must replicate on a schedule, based on the job the various cells are assigned.  Bone cells last a long time.  Gastrointestinal cells last a short time.  In any case of cell replication, new components must be built from raw materials, eaten, digested and delivered by the blood stream. 

In eukaryotic cells, the DNA is confined to the nucleus.  To replicate new DNA, the nucleus sends mRNA out of the nucleus, into the cell interior with the instructions for compiling an identical copy of the DNA for the new cell being created.  Once the DNA is replicated and resides in the nucleus of the new cell, the mRNA used in this process is gathered up and packaged into a proteinaceous vesicle, sealed up tight and ejected as waste matter from the cell.  These used up mRNA molecules are dead material, securely and safely packaged up for disposal.  While still inside the new cell, this vesical is called an exosome.  It is harmless and secure, not capable of causing any disease.  It is safely ejected out of the cell into the blood for removal from the body.

In terms of numbers, with replication of cells being an ongoing nonstop process, there are more viruses in living organisms and in the environment than any other known entity.  Nature has never employed a common biological process as a source of disease in the host organism employing the process. This is an absurd idea, but when has absurd ever stood in the way of the federal Geek squad?

Only sick, insane monsters would take to the weapons lab with projects known as “gain of function” experiments to attempt the modification of viruses into lab-grown weapons that are intended to try to re-enter cells to confuse the replication process with discarded waste molecules.  In spite of tireless efforts, none of the SARS, HIV, MERS, COVID, etc. have ever been successful.  Nature never allows the survival of aberrant genetic materials, and quickly halts the survival of these freak entities.  All of the viral epidemics that have been predicted to kill millions of humans have quickly fizzled out with only incidental harm.

This time, with the COVID, they simply fabricated the illusion of a pandemic with falsified information, test units that always give 100% fake positives, mitigation using lockdowns that cause far more disease than their fake ravings of pandemic disease and deaths.  The self-acclaimed virus experts have gotten full support from TV and all the other media outlets to keep the fake narrative alive.

Their problem is that all nations keep birth and death statistics on their populations.  There are no countries in the world whose death statistics indicate any form of medical epidemic.  There are no excessive deaths compared to prior year periods…at all.  An epidemic, for it to be real, must produce excess deaths when compared to data from prior normal periods.  This is not the case, anywhere in the world. Therefore, there is no COVID pandemic.

But wait, you say, “what about all the deaths?” I say to you “What deaths? I just explained that there are no excess deaths”. The deaths the meatheads are claiming are the same deaths that have always occurred. We live in a world where births and deaths are the normal course. Only when ‘excess deaths’ occur do we need to be concerned. That is certainly not the case with the covid.

Since there is no epidemic anywhere in the world, the next question is:  Why do they want to make people believe in the fake pandemic and what is really going on here with all of the hype and over-the-top countermeasures?

Finally, Someone is re-thinking this virus thing

David Rasnick, PhD chemist, with a long history working in the pharmaceutical industry (Abbott, Prototek, Arris), broke away from official science and served as the president of Rethinking AIDS: the group for the scientific reappraisal of the HIV hypothesis. He was a member of the Presidential AIDS Advisory Panel of South Africa.

Here is a recent explosive statement Rasnick made about SARS-CoV-2 and HIV. Understanding it brings about a breakthrough revelation:

“Viruses are unstable, RNA [e.g, SARS-Cov-2] viruses especially. They are so unstable, there is no such thing as a standard RNA virus. They are like snow flakes, no two are identical.” Although they produce identical DNA, any mRNA can be different in terms of the components of the DNA it provides.

“HIV is theorized to be an RNA virus with 9,800 nucleotides

“In the Preface it says:”

“’The number of [genetic] sequences in the HIV database is still increasing. In total, at the end of 2017, there were 812,586 sequences in the HIV Sequence Database, an increase of 8.5% since the previous year.”

“None of the sequences of the world-destroying [sarcasm], computer generated coronavirus with its 30,000 or so nucleotides, are identical.”  None are actually factual.  All are computer models, or, in reality, guesses.

“The virus maniacs use computers to compare the menagerie of sequences to come up with ‘A Consensus Sequence’ for HIV, Coronavirus, and all the rest. The consensus sequence exists in two places: in computers and in strings of RNA synthesized in the lab.”

“Even consensus sequences are not stable and certainly not accurate. Different groups, using a variety of computer algorithms will invariably come up with different ‘consensus sequences’.”

The implications of Rasnick’s statement are enormous.

First of all, forget about the idea that SARS-Cov-2 has one genetic sequence. First, we have no real knowledge of what this sequence is. Second, it is thought to be changing dynamically.

And these multiple sequences aren’t assembled by looking through a magic microscope. They’re put together by computer programs which have pre-set algorithms. It is all a guess. Nothing is real.

In other words, the sequences are built by ASSUMPTIONS (not evidence) embedded in the algorithms.

ANY vaccine developed for SARS-Cov-2 (even if you believe in the theory of how vaccines are supposed to work) would face the task of producing immunity to an never ending random changing molecular sequence—not just one strain, but endless numbers of variations.

You would have an analog to seasonal flu, in which researchers make a guess about what the new version of the germ will look like every year and develop a new vaccine for that guess.  This does not even address the fact that there is no such thing as a virus vaccine.  It is not in any way analogous to bacterial vaccines, which also are very highly suspect as to the theory upon which they are based.

How well is this working out? Public health agencies report that, each and every year, there are a BILLION cases of seasonal flu, worldwide. How about common colds, sore throats, bronchitis, etc.  No one has immunity from any of these ancient maladies.  This is because the idea of a vaccine for these common recurring ailments is pure nonsense, as it likely is across the whole spectrum of vaccination.

Going still deeper, if the genetic sequences of the ever-varying viruses are not discovered, but concocted via computer programs, how likely is it that a vaccine utilizing that “data” would work?

And at the bottom of the whole pile of guesswork, is, of course, the realization that, if these genetic sequences are concocted—where is the ACTUAL isolated virus? WHERE IS THE PROOF THAT IT EVEN EXISTS?

Where is it, when researchers twist and torture the meaning of “isolated,” so that it indicates “the virus is somewhere in a in a dish in a lab full of some kind of soup”—definitely non-isolated.

This is the “science” of modern virology.  It was based on a lie to begin with, and the lie has gathered baggage over the years. Now, it has just become accepted as fact because it was taught in college.

But don’t worry, be happy, the test “for the coronavirus” must be accurate, the case and death numbers must be accurate, and the consequent lockdowns which are destroying national economies and hundreds of millions of lives are necessary…right?

Sure. Why not? Let’s say it’s all, all right. Everybody can go back to sleep and let tyrants demolish Earth’s civilization.

OR, you can REBEL against the Police State built on a house-of-cards hoax called “scientism.”

As opposed to “the virus”, liberty and freedom are quite real. People can feel them in their bones, in their minds and souls. Even and especially if they are slaves, they can feel them.  The virus, too, are perfectly real and countless in numbers, growing by the second.  It’s not for lack of viruses, but for the fabled pathogenic nature of viruses that was the original lie to use them to create fear in the very people who are among the very source of viruses.

DOES an HIV virus EXIST? 

Before we get to Christine Johnson’s interview, a bit of background.

In 1987-88, the main question eventually became: does HIV cause AIDS? For months, If you take the answer as a ‘yes’, it will take you down a rabbit hole of nonsense that just gets deeper and deeper.

For example, in parts of Africa, people who were chronically ill and dying did not need any new virus to account for it. All their “AIDS” conditions and symptoms could be explained by their environment: contaminated water supplies; sewage pumped directly into the drinking water; protein-calorie malnutrition; hunger, starvation; medical treatment with immunosuppressive vaccines and drugs; toxic pesticides; fertile farm land stolen by corporations and governments; wars; extreme poverty. The virus cover story actually obscured all these ongoing crimes.

In 1987, several researchers were rejecting the notion that HIV caused AIDS. Their reports were persuasive.

Take HIV virus out of the picture and things fall into place a whole lot better.  For EVERY group supposedly at “high-risk” for AIDS, their conditions and symptoms could be entirely explained by factors that had nothing to do with a new virus, or any virus, for that matter.

AIDS was not one condition. It was an umbrella label, used to re-package a number of immunosuppressive conditions and create the illusion of a new and unique and single “pandemic.”


Was the purported virus ever truly discovered or just another convenient way to perpetuate the lie?

And THAT question led to: what is the correct procedure for discovering a new virus?

A 1997 interview, conducted by Christine Johnson, delves into these questions:

How should researchers prove that a particular pathogenic virus exists? How should they isolate it? What are the correct steps?

These questions, and their answers, reside at the heart of most disease research—and yet, overwhelmingly, doctors never explore them or even consider them.

Johnson interviews Dr. Eleni Papadopulos, “a biophysicist and leader of a group of HIV/AIDS scientists from Perth in Western Australia. Over the past decade and more.  She and her colleagues have published many scientific papers questioning the HIV/AIDS hypothesis…”

Here are highlights from the interview. Technical issues are discussed. Grasping them is not the easiest exercise you’ve ever done, but I believe the serious reader can comprehend the vital essentials.

CJ: Does HIV cause AIDS?

EP: There is no proof that HIV causes AIDS.

CJ: Why not?

EP: For many reasons, but most importantly, because there is no proof that HIV even exists.

CJ: Didn’t Luc Montagnier and Robert Gallo [purportedly the co-discoverers of HIV] isolate HIV back in the early eighties?

EP: No. In the papers published in Science by those two research groups, there is no proof of the isolation of a retrovirus from AIDS patients. [HIV is said to be a retrovirus.]

CJ: They say they did isolate a virus.

EP: Our interpretation of the data differs. To prove the existence of a virus you need to do three things. First, culture cells and find a particle you think might be a virus. Obviously, at the very least, that particle should look like a virus. Second, you have to devise a method to get that particle separated and on its own, so you can take it apart and analyze precisely what it is comprised of. Then you would need to prove the particle can make faithful copies of itself. In other words, that it can replicate segments of DNA with the appropriate features, when mitosing. But no virus can replicate itself.  It is comprised of dead molecules that have no properties of living entities. It has no means to live on its own. It is just a pattern for part of a DNA molecule.

CJ: Can’t you just look down a microscope and say there’s the virus in the cultures?

EP: No, you can’t. Not all particles that look like viruses are viruses.

… CJ: My understanding is that high-speed centrifugation is used to produce samples consisting exclusively of objects having the same density, a so-called “density-purified sample.” Electron microscopy is used to see if these density-purified samples consist of objects which all have the same appearance — in which case the sample is an isolate — and if this appearance matches that of a retrovirus, in terms of size, shape, and so forth. If all this is true, then you are three steps into the procedure for obtaining a retroviral isolate. (1) You have an isolate, and the isolate consists of objects with the same (2) density and (3) appearance of a retrovirus. Then you have to examine this isolate further, to see if the objects in it respond to  reverse transcriptase [an enzyme].   The enzyme can digest the molecules and produce simpler component forms.

EP: Retroviral particles have a physical property which enables them to be separated from other organic material. That property is their buoyancy, or density, and this can be utilized to purify the particles by a process called density gradient centrifugation.

Decant a specimen of culture fluids and gently place a drop on top of a sugar solution. Then you spin the test tube at extremely high speeds. This generates tremendous forces, and particles present in that drop of fluid are forced through the sugar solution until they reach a point where their buoyancy prevents them from penetrating any further and they band. Retroviruses band at a characteristic point. In sucrose solutions they band at a point where the density is 1.16 gm/ml.

That band can then be selectively extracted and photographed with an electron microscope. The picture is called an electron micrograph, or EM. The electron microscope enables particles the size of retroviruses to be seen, and to be characterized by their appearance.

CJ: So, examination with the electron microscope tells you if you have a retro virus?

EP: It’s the only way to know if you have retrovirus, or anything at all.

CJ: Did Montagnier and Gallo do this?

EP: No, this is one of the many problems. Montagnier and Gallo did use density gradient banding, but for some unknown reason they did not publish any EMs [photos] of the material at 1.16 gm/ml…this is quite puzzling because in 1973 the Pasteur Institute hosted a meeting attended by scientists, some of whom are now amongst the leading HIV experts. At that meeting the method of retroviral isolation was thoroughly discussed, and photographing the 1.16 band of the density gradient was considered absolutely essential.

CJ: But Montagnier and Gallo did publish photographs of virus particles.

EP: No. Montagnier and Gallo published electron micrographs (EMs)of culture fluids that had not been centrifuged, or even separated from the culture cells, for that matter. These EMs contained, in addition to many other things, including the culture cells and other things that clearly are not retroviruses, a few particles which Montagnier and Gallo claimed are retroviruses, and which all belonged to the same retroviral species, now called HIV. But photographs of unpurified particles don’t prove that those particles are viruses. The existence of HIV was not established by Montagnier and Gallo — or anyone since — using the method presented at the 1973 meeting.

CJ: So, before AIDS came along there was a method for proving the existence of a retrovirus, but Montagnier and Gallo did not follow this method?

EP: They used some of the techniques, but they did not undertake every step including proving what particles, if any, are in the 1.16 gm/ml band of the density gradient, the density that defines retroviral particles.

CJ: But what about their pictures?

EP: Montagnier’s and Gallo’s electron micrographs…are of entire cell cultures, or of unpurified fluids from cultures…”

—end of interview excerpt—

If you grasp the essentials of this discussion, you’ll see there is every reason to doubt the existence of HIV, because the methods for proving its existence were not followed, for some compelling reason.

And so, there is every reason to doubt and reject the existence of the COVID virus, since correct large-scale electron microscope studies have never been done.

How many viruses have been named as causes of disease, when in fact those viruses have never been isolated or proved to exist?  All of them.

Of course, conventional-consensus researchers and doctors will scoff at any attempt to raise these issues. For them, “the science is settled.” Meaning: they don’t want to think. They don’t want to stir the waters. They have careers and books published on this “settled science” that would make them look like fools to the entire world, if this came to the front.  Since people, even those in the field, have no idea about these issues, they are content and feeling safe that no one will look behind the curtain.

A few years ago, chemist David Rasnick sent a request to the CDC, asking for evidence demonstrating that the Ebola virus had ever been isolated from a human. The answers he received did not begin to approach any level of certainty.

The deeper you go, the stranger it gets. To put it another way: the deeper you go, the more the scientism is demonstrated to be hopelessly flawed.


  1. Regarding the entire topic of viruses as harmful agents of disease, this is obviously medical tyranny and deception from a point not long ago, when the Rockefeller’s takeover of medicines and medical care, the medical/pharmaceutical industry, was perpetrated.  The mysterious virus was silently launched into the fray of a fake theory of disease, bought and paid for by the Rothschild dynasty from a greedy criminal named Louis Pasteur. 
  2. Diseases stemming from easily identifiable causes like malnutrition, lack of sanitation, toxins, radiation, ignorance about nutrition and poor life-style were, instead, blamed on a victimhood concept, where ‘germs’ were the pathogens people ‘caught’, making the display the symptoms of disease.  In the theory, each ‘germ’ caused its own unique disease, displaying certain symptoms that made it identifiable and needing a pill, a surgery, a radiation or chemo treatment.  These are the tools of this new Rockefeller-conceived medical-care system that would lead the US and Westernized nations into spending half of their GDP on ‘healthcare’ and generate enormous profits for the perpetrators, the Rockefellers. 
  3. In this insane concept, the more ‘germs’, the more pills needed. The idea of identifying viruses as ‘germs’ was brilliant from the point of view of profiting from human ignorance and deceit.  The people have no means to grasp what was being foisted upon them.  They accepted readily the idea that viruses were ‘germs’, just like bacteria, toxic substances and poisons. They can be said to cause the symptoms of disease and who is going to prove otherwise?  In a crumbling unproductive society where the healthcare industry provides a majority of the ‘good jobs’, who is going to rock the boat?
  4. Now people commonly have medicine cabinets full of pill bottles that must be kept full.  This, along with the ever increasing number of ‘germs’ discovered by greedy scientists, makes for a growth industry of boundless proportions. With constant development of ‘designer pills’ advertised on TV, the Rockefellers are drowning in profits.
  5. With the viruses, a natural byproduct of eukaryotic cell replication, branded as ‘germs’, this concept can become a useful tool not only in selling pills, but in controlling populations by threatening them with viral pandemics.
  6. The vaccine idea was another brilliant concept that generated tons of profits, as all ‘insurance policies’ do, but also providing a bio-weapon to be used against the ignorant masses, easily trained to believe, and greedily accepting as more ‘insurance policies’ for their health.  Insurance policies are a highly profitable business venture for insurance providers.  The fake doctors have you believing that the ‘germs’ are something organic, spontaneous and inevitable.  This is totally false, and in isolated parts of the world, people have longevity and perfect health because they have never seen or heard of allopathic doctors and their pills.
  7. With the monopoly the Rockefellers have purchased from the government, licensing is provided exclusively to allopaths, as is the insurance money flow.  Anyone who sees the problem and the hoax of this system, and tries to disclose it, is delicensed and destroyed professionally.  Even, and especially if they are telling the truth and their methods are working while allopathy is failing.
  8. Nothing is going to change because this is the way they want it.  They want you chronically sick, but still not dying until you reach a certain point where it is no longer viable.  You are the ATM machine who provides the generous income on a regular ongoing basis.
  9. This may have brought us to the fake virus plandemic.  Viruses are never going to be harmful if Nature is allowed to function.  In the present situation, no one has died as a result of a virus.  They can change all the ‘causes of deaths’ to covid but that is not going to make covid real. So, forget about covid and look a little further behind the curtain.  You will see the wizard working a different scheme. The countermeasure lockdowns, masking, now Fauci’ double-masking, denying people fellowship, even among once close families.  This is your vulnerability.  Then comes the lethal vaccine injection and, if you peer deeper, a whole lot more destruction of human society.

Merck Scraps COVID Vaccines — Says It’s More Effective to Get the Virus and Recover by immune response

Vaccine manufacturer Merck has abandoned development of two coronavirus vaccines, saying that after extensive research it was concluded that the shots offered less protection than just contracting the virus itself and developing antibodies.

The company announced that the shots V590 and V591 were ‘well tolerated’ by test patients, however they generated an ‘inferior’ immune system response in comparison with natural infection.

The company stated that instead it will focus on research into therapeutic drugs labeled as MK-7110 and MK-4482.

The drugs aim to protect patients from the damage of an overactive immune response to the virus.

“Interim results from a Phase 3 study showed a greater than 50 percent reduction in the risk of death or respiratory failure in patients hospitalized with moderate to severe flu or colds,” the company’s statement noted of the MK-7110 drug.

Merck is to receive around $356 million from the US government to fast-track production of the potential treatments under Operation Warp Speed.

Chief Marketing Officer Michael Nally recently told Bloomberg that Merck is aiming to produce some 20 million courses of the MK-4482 drug, an oral antiviral which patients will take twice a day for five days.

Meanwhile, in related news, German scientists have claimed that the UK Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine is less than 8% effective in over 65s, prompting the vaccine developers to hit back, rubbishing the claims.

The German media published the claims, alleging it had been ‘confirmed’ by ‘multiple’ unnamed senior German government sources.

UK government ministers have suggested that the claim could be related to the ongoing dispute over delivery of the vaccine between the European Union and AstraZeneca.

The EU, which is yet to approve the vaccine, has threatened to block exports of shots to Britain, in a move that has been branded ‘spiteful’ by British government sources.

In an effort to make sure its member states get their ‘fair share’ of vaccines, the EU has also threatened to block the delivery of Pfizer vaccines to the UK, demanding that drug companies provide detailed information on when they plan to export Covid jabs to countries outside the EU.

If you care to learn more, information is readily available.